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The room is 20 feet by 50 feet and 12 feet tall. Running parallel to the long side of the room, there are five rows of shelves: Three in the middle of the room, and one against each wall. (Five rows of shelves; four aisles for people to walk...) All of the shelves are nine feet tall and are filled with books. The ceiling is covered with pressed tin patterned squares, (This is an old storefront building) and is not flat.

There is one Speaker on each long wall, laying sideways on the top shelf, facing the other on the opposite side of the room. The speakers are Halfway between the front and back of the room (25 feet from the front or back, depending on your point of view.) The back of the speaker is immediately next to the wall, and the "top" (really the side) of the speaker is about 2 feet from the ceiling.

Because of these room characteristics and the placement of the speakers, I am satisfied with my relatively cheap components. The system sounds good at softer volume levels where it is left all day, listening to classical, jazz, acoustic folk music or bluegrass. It also sounds good to me when I turn up the volume after hours with all kinds of music. There is actually a "sweet spot" in the middle back of the room, although the imaging is not as good as it could be if I had a dedicated listening room with the speakers placed away from the wall pointed toward the listener... Elsewhere in the room, the sound of the two speakers mixes well unless you are in the wall aisle next to one speaker. The sound to me is realistic and engaging. At the bars where I listen to most live music, the speakers are usually placed higher, many times next to the ceiling. The sound is also good with pipe organ music. The organ is usually up in the choir loft at church.

Despite their limitations, I like cassette decks. The local college radio station plays an incredible variety of music, and I am always recording the shows.
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    • Yamaha A-700
    integrated
    • Camber Rega Camber
    Made in Canada; now out of buisiness, I think. 2 way, 7
    • Thorens TD-146
    stock TP-11 MK-III tonearm
    modified with Audioquest interconnects
    • Grado Prestige series Silver
    moving magnet cartridge.
    • Yamaha T-700
    digital tuner
    • Onkyo DX-1400
    basic CD player
    • Yamaha KX-630
    three head, single capstan
    • NAD 613
    two head single capstain, easy to use.
    • Yamaha KX-R470
    auto reverse for recording radio programs
    • Nakamichi DR-3
    two head single capstan. I hate to tell the guys at
    • Niles TSB-3
    tape deck switcher
    • Adcom ACE-515
    power conditioner; A microwave and refrigerator are plugged into the same circuit....
    • standard stranded copper 12 gauge
    The speaker run from the amp to the speaker is about 60 feet. The amp is in the corner of the room and the room is 12 feet high. See room description for speaker placement and why I am using
    • Radio Shack standard 3 foot
    cheapness and

Comments 4

Owner
I blew the midrange driver on one of the Celestion Ditton speakers, I am back running the Cambers. The Cambers sound better anyway, and are way more efficient.
I also blew the Yamaha amp about the same time, I bought a Pioneer A717 integrated amp off of E bay, cheap enough. Fact: The Pioneer runs way cooler at all volume levels than the Yamaha. Subjective: The Pioneer sounds somewhat less bright than the Yamaha.....
There are sound differences between amplifiers.... The differences are not nearly as dramatic as differences between speakers. I ran both amps on both the Cambers and the Celestions, The Pioneer seemed to be able to drive the inefficient Celestions more effortlessly...
Read the details of my "listening room" above (actually, it is where I work). The room conditions explain why I do not spend more money on more expensive equipment.

playtrim

Owner
I am currently using a pair of Celestion Ditton 44 speakers. slightly muddier than the Cambers; more "punchy" bass; Very listenable sound - no fatigue. I like them so much, I will keep them hooked up for a while. See more comments in the 'Speakers' forum.

playtrim

Even a cheap system can sound good - since our brain gets used to our system after awhile. I enjoyed my sony-bose combination back in college immensely - I listened mostly to operas and I was so very happy, til I started listening to better gears, and found the law of diminishing return. The companies are charging us way too much in high end audio. A well chosen midfi can be profoundly satisfying as well.
If you are satisfied with the sound, go ahead and enjoy the music - that's what this is about, and not about components - we sometimes forget.
I would upgrade the speaker wire though. They made a difference even on a shelf system. I went to a hardware store and bought the thickest solid copper wire ($.49 per foot) intended for house electricity. It sounded pretty good by it self, but sounded even better when I added monster cable to it - combined both. The solid wire gives clarity and core to the sound, while the monster cable adds something nice to the sound.
If you are happy with your system, I would just enjoy the music, and consider your-self fortunate. There are some who dish out many-K dollars and still unhappy with their system.

gonglee3

What can I say? You're a cheap date. You're lucky...

warrenh

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